‘Nothing to fear’ or ‘removing civil liberties’? Digital ID plans spark fierce debate among Independent readers

PLANs to provide a compulsory digital identity card in the UK, Independent Readers.

Many of them branded an attack on civilian freedoms, and insisted that they would do very little to prevent illegal migration, while others felt that the promotion would not be olmaz nothing to fear ”.

Many readers supported the idea by referring to examples in countries such as Estonia and arguing that digital identity can help modernize public services and make criminals to benefit from gaps.

Some have praised the ministers for their migration for migration, even if the release of the market was öz brave enough to take action ”.

However, others argued that policy would unjustly target the immigrants and ordinary citizens and that a reader would define it as “state supervision went too far”.

Critics also warned that he would do very little to deal with illegal migration, and instead he could direct vulnerable people to the underground. As an reader says, the plan carries the risk of creating a “two -layer society ğı where non -articles are pushed to insecure works and houses.

Here is what you have to say:

ID card will restore our rights

I opposed the idea of ​​identity card as a way for the state to have control over citizens for most of my long life.

The objection to the need for citizens to have a compulsory card was based on the concept that the state and the individual citizen reversed the role. Which one comes first? Of course, the individual is not in any other way, but the creature that creates and controls the state. Reversing the role is to weaken our fundamental freedom.

However, these were in the days before the state bureaucracies that control our existence – state bureaucracies, pensions and social welfare and national and local taxes payment obligations – each aspect of our lives to the commercial agencies recorded in countless national and international databases and control. Each detail is recorded in the archives of strong international companies that control our credit and financial situation and intervene in the most sincere details of our presence.

A long time ago, we entered this world where we lost control of our privacy, the identity card is now entering.

In the context of 2025, it is an identity card that will restore a measure of our privacy and guarantee our identity to imitate our identity. It is an identity card that will guarantee our rights to vote and play a full role in the political and economic system. It is the identity card that will show that we have the national rights and privileges they currently have, because others have only false identities and have no real right to them.

Adrian Fox

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There is nothing to hide, there is nothing to be afraid of

Over time, we were compatible with other countries and the EU.

Yes, of course, people will be able to mimic identities as they mimic fake licenses and passports, but it will make it possible to grasp identity cards much more strongly in the country, and will gradually eliminate people who are dealing with the enormous black market, which is a much greater problem than politicians allow.

HMRC is applying digital accounting, which has self -employed from next April, will start to dry tax avoidance opportunities by reporting income and exaggerated expenses inadequate.

If you are honest and if you have nothing to hide, you probably cannot object to this offer.

However, it will realize that they will eventually be found from the scammers of all colors and all segments of life.

It would make sense to be a general amnesty for the people who are illegally here to be saved in the system, and this will go hand in hand with a deadline, and then everyone who is caught without identity will be responsible for being thrown or prosecution.

Canpeoplerilybethisstupid

If people don’t have anything to hide, why object?

If people don’t have anything to hide, why do they object to their identity cards? Everyone wants to do something about illegal immigrants, but as soon as an idea is published, the same people are shouting about civil freedoms.

I have nothing to hide, so he would welcome a identity card, and I’m sure there would be legal immigrants. In my opinion, if there are only more than 80,000 jobs, immigrants make more sense than to allow the country. NHS and our care houses would suffer.

Lizell

Benefit fraud is in the past

If Tories had no confusion about their “freedom”, their identity cards could have been used – they were scrapped by David Cameron, and if they were going to stay here, it would be possible to insist if all the immigrants coming from the EU card provided mutual access to the benefits, or indeed an identity card that was described as Belgium.

Benefit fraud will be something as well as illegal and exploitative working practices as well as in the past.

And all the campaigns about EU citizens, who were walking to the country, uncontrolled and not counted, would be a lot of nonsense.

We probably won’t vote to leave the EU.

It was as if Tories was called their best to make a reason to leave the EU when they were their mistakes. But maybe that’s pushing him. Of course, Labor never said that this was what happened during the referendum campaign, but later in Westminster, a long, long time.

ppundit

I will never accept an ID card

They finally did this. Today I am 65 years old and I struggled to protect my free life for most of those years, where I wanted to be, and in the law, the government, Google or whatever I chose to do what I want to do without permission or without permission. I am not a product or the ownership of England.

For some people, this is not anything, but it is very important that I am not subscribing for me and value my freedom above everything.

Apparently, the British government has found a way to prosecute me because they wanted to hold on to this freedom because I will not accept an identity card. I would go to jail first.

Getoffmyland

Absolutely no problem in Portugal

Keep them in Portugal and absolutely no problem. Actually, it’s quite useful.

Here we know an illegal Brit – for a random control by the police to stop it once. They will be deported.

Ficklepickle

Estonia’s system works as a package just

He chose something from Estonia, but it works as a package.

Estonia runs one of the most central and digitalized population records in Europe.

This is called population registration.

Every Estonian resident with a residence permit should register citizens or foreign official housing addresses.

If you move, you must legally update the registration (either by an identity card, through local government or at the Police and Border Protection Board).

Records: Name, personal identity code, family relationships, marital status, citizenship, residence address and move history.

Municipalities rely on education, voting zones, local services and taxes. Ministries and agencies benefit from the X-Road digital spine.

So yes, Estonia has no office, but also has a living, interconnected state database that should always be up -to -date.

If you do not update, you may lose access to local services, voting rights in the wrong area and even face fines.

This is often part of Estonia as “e-government :: Population Record is the backbone of the e-government. It’s like a digital census that doesn’t stop running.

Without all this, an E-ID is completely useless.

Mortys

Why should I carry another card?

I’m British, I’ve lived in England all my life. Why should I get a compulsory ID card? Already my passport, my driver’s license and so on. There is. Does that mean I should always carry a wallet now?

Big Brother is watching a little too much for my liking. In general, what will be all the elderly struggling with identity? More documents to deal with.

Obviously, I think it’s just one step in the removal of civilian freedoms.

Turkish

Will the identity card express no benefit?

I can’t see how an identification card can affect illegal migration. Illegal immigrants will still be among us either without an identification card or with stolen or fake cards.

If the production of a valid identity card is compulsory to access services, advantages, NHS and welfare services, then it can only be valuable (undoubtedly there will be a lot of terrible things to maintain £ 250 million to north and to protect).

Hampshirehog

ID card makes my life easier

I have lived in Spain since 1983 and when I applied for permission to reside in Spain, I gave my identity number in the same year. This was even before he became a member of the EEC of Spain, but identity controls and banking, etc. They were in front of England in almost everything about.

Since then I have had a few identity cards, but since the first day I have maintained the same identity number, and this is the number that appears in my Spanish driver’s license, tax returns and Spanish social security health card. The card I can show to prove my identity when traveling in or within the country or in the EU or checking a hotel.

The latest card is a physical, credit card -sized electronic card made of plastic or polycarbonate, and has an electronic chip for NFC technology, which contains biometric data such as photographs and fingerprints. Not that much that the Spanish authorities can control me, but to make my life easier on a daily basis!

I also have a British passport for international travel, and since my Spanish substitution depends on the having a valid passport of my origin country, but the passport numbers change every 10 years, as in my identity card, there is as little continuity of this document.

LANZALADY11

Dictator Starmer?

Starmer, England’s dictator, now wants all adults to be an identification card.

The government cannot cope with the illegal immigrants who came to England by stopping this, so Starmer will postpone an identity card that should be produced for employment for employment and postpone illegal immigrants to England.

The cost of identity cards will face the money of millions of taxpayers, and all the British government cannot stop the illegal immigrants to go to England.

The British government likes to spend money. They paid millions of money to stop the immigrants passing the channel, but they all lost money. Then the government suffered millions and loss of money to the Rwanda program.

Macron told Starmer that British citizens need identity cards to stop immigrants coming to England, but Macron should give back the millions paid to the French government to stop the immigrants.

Stacey Benoit

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