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Lammy says he told JD Vance Nowak case ‘has nothing to do with mass immigration’

On Friday evening, US vice president JD Vance blamed Henry Nowak’s murder on a “mass invasion of immigrants” and said the “only response” was “righteous anger”, prompting Downing Street to lash out at “people trying to interfere with our democracy and foment division”.

David Lammy, the UK justice secretary and deputy prime minister, told Sky News’ Trevor Phillips that he spoke to Vance yesterday following his intervention. Lammy, who is said to be good friends with the vice president, said:

double quotesI spoke with the vice president yesterday and wanted to highlight a few things.

The first is this Our democratic process is working well. This young man was convicted. The Independent Police (Conduct) Authority has an investigation into the police.

The Inspectorate has an investigation into Hampshire Police. (The Attorney General) is looking at penalties related to this. National police chiefs are reviewing guidance on this.

The second thing was I disagree with him. This has nothing to do with mass immigration. This young man was an Englishman. Let’s be clear about this. So I said, ‘Look, Mr. Vice President, you are wrong about this‘.

And at the same time the situation is Murders are actually decreasing in the UK. So we had a nice chat. But we disagree.

US vice president JD Vance speaks to David Lammy during a meeting at Chevening House in Kent in August 2025. Photo: Kin Cheung/AP

When asked how Vance reacted, Lammy said the vice president had “longstanding concerns about what he called western values” and that the call ended very amicably.

“I also told him that tweeting like that wouldn’t be helpful, in part because of the demands of the Nowak family, and reminded him that they wanted to make it a matter of common sense rather than making it an issue of division and hatred.”

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Speaking to Laura Kuenssberg on the BBC’s Sunday politics programme, David Lammy said ethnic minorities were disproportionately involved in the criminal justice system, so “context can be important” but “cannot overshadow the violence”.

Asked whether police should take into account the color of someone’s skin, the justice minister said:

double quotesWe are all equal before the law, so that’s not the starting point, but that’s the way it is, in the case of arrest, prosecution and conviction in our country, I’m afraid in our prisons, that’s still the case. Ethnic minorities are disproportionately involved in the criminal justice system.

So context may be important, but it can’t overshadow the violence or the fact that no matter the color of your skin or your background, we need our police to take action to alleviate and combat crime in our communities.

Lammy said he disagreed with “two-tier” policing in the UK; This is a claim propagated by the right that the police treat white people more harshly than other ethnic groups.

Reform party leader Nigel Farage said Hampshire police’s treatment of Nowak was evidence of “a two-layered culture in this country where the rights and privileges of white people are less important than those of ethnic minorities”. In fact, as my colleagues point out in this story, last digits It shows Hampshire police officers are five times more likely to stop and search black people than white people.

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